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\author{Tunui Franken, Thomas Paris}
\date{for 2022--06--27}

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\section*{Is there discrimination in science? If so, what should be done about it?}

\subsection*{Proposition (Thomas Paris)}

\subsection*{Opposition (Tunui Franken)}

Science has always been the domain of curiosity and learning for the good of mankind as a whole.

Science in of itself doesn't have valued opinions.
The atomic bomb is a horrific human invention, but the science behind is neutral.
Here's a proof: the same science that permits the atomic bomb also gave us nuclear energy, which is today's best bet to adress energy in a zero-carbon scenario.

How can you discriminate if you don't have an opinion?
The discrimination we see in the spheres of science is discrimination of and by humans.
It is no different than discrimination found in any field where humans are involved.

If we must admit there \emph{is} discrimination in science, we must argue that it is a subset, or even just a consequence, of discrimination found in all aspects of human societies.

We could agree that as long as discrimination is part of our societies, science will suffer from the same discriminations as could be found anywhere else.
So addressing discrimination in science is at best counterproductive, because there is no aspect of science that inherently discriminates.

Only by solving discrimination problems in our society as a whole will we remove any trace of discrimination in science.

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